Joseph Roy dit Desjardins[1, 2]
1832 - 1883 (51 years) Has more than 100 ancestors and 13 descendants in this family tree.-
Name Joseph Roy dit Desjardins Relationship with Therese Nadeau Birth 2 Apr 1832 Kamouraska, Kamouraska, Québec, Canada [1, 2, 3] Baptism 2 Apr 1832 St Louis, Kamouraska, Kamouraska, Québec, Canada [4, 5] Gender Male Other Name Joseph Gardner Emigration Between Jan 1852 and Jul 1857 (19 years) Old Town, Penobscot County, Maine, USA Death 13 Oct 1883 , Penobscot County, Maine, USA [6] Burial 13 Oct 1883 St-Joseph's Catholic Church, Old Town, Penobscot County, Maine, USA [6] Patriarch & Matriarch Siblings 5 brothers and 5 sisters Notes - Joseph was baptised at St-Louis de Kamouraska, Québec as Joseph Roy just one month after the marriage of his future parents-in-law, Jean Baptiste Hudon dit Beaulieu and Emilie Dionne. Baptismal entry shows that Joseph was "né de ce jour," meaning "born this day," the same day as his baptism. His godparents are: Parrain Francois Xavier Roy, Marraine Reine Roy.
2012: Nearly 20 years' research of church, census, vital, and other records of Québec and Maine suggested that the most likely candidates for Joseph Desjardins-Gardner's parents were Antoine Roy dit Desjardins and his wife Christine Cote, primarily for two important reasons:
1) There were only a few males who could be candidates for a match to Joseph Desjardins aka Joe Gardner of Maine. Only a few Joseph Roys and Joseph Desjardins' were born in French Canada (Québec) in the right time
frame of 1830-1838 in the two counties--Kamouraska and Rivière-du-Loup-- from which nearly all ancestors of his related lines originated, including his wife Pauline Beaulieu's family and who neither died young nor married
women other than Joseph's wife Pauline.
One of those few possible candidates was Antoine Desjardins' and Christine Cote's son, Joseph, born in Apr 1832 in Kamouraska. No early death nor marriage records were found for him in the church records of the two
researched counties, nor in the several marrage repetoires, which have been compiled for the Province of Québec up to the date of ancestor Joseph Gardner's marriage to Pauline in Maine in 1857. Additional research in
other regions, including parts of Aroostook and Penobscot Counties in Maine, parts of Beauce County, Québec, and several counties in New Brunswick, Canada, including Madawaska and Victoria, did not revea lany
possible candidates, either.
2) There were several of Antoine's and Christine's known children and grandchildren who emigrated to Bradley, Maine, a small town of a few thousand people (then and now) where ancestor Joseph lived with hisfamily, during
the early 1870's. They moved to a farm in Aroostook County about 1876, then returned to Bradley, soon after the 1880 US Census, since their last child, Odelie, was born there in Oct 1882.
According to the homeowner's map of Great Works, Bradley, Maine of 1875 (Atlas of Penobscot County, Maine, Comstock & Cline, New York,1875), Joseph Gardner's family lived on the corner of West and Brown Streets,
overlooking the Penobscot River. Living a couple blocks east ofJoseph's was the family of Peter Gardner aka Pierre Desjardins, who emigrated there in and several blocks south of them, lived Caroline (Desjardins) Laplant's
family. Peter and Caroline were siblings, children of Antoine Desjardins and Christine Cote. Also emigrating to Bradley, Maine in 1878 and 1880 were two sons of their sister, Henriette Gasseau. All told, there were typically 2-
3 dozen members of Antoine's and Christine's descendancy, including Joseph Gardner's own family, who lived in the very small town of Bradley around the late 1870's to at least the early1890's.
Although records for family births and marriages in Bradley and Old Town, Maine in that time-frame are pretty much non-existent--thus evidence of Joseph as godfather or witness for these families is also non-existent--
Joseph's proximity to the Desjardins' of this line in the 1870-1880's suggests he is the son of Antoine and Christine who is missing from the marriage and death records of the counties of Rivière-du-Loup and Kamouraska,
Québec prior to 1857.
2014: Fortunately, the results of DNA testing and research confirm that Antoine Roy dit Desjardins & Christine Cote are the parents of ancestor Joseph Desjardins aka Joe Gardner:
Through researching the DNA ancestry of several, more-distant cousins (5th-7th), following a dozen lines from mutual ancestors through direct lines of descendancy invariably leads to Antoine Roy dit Desjardins and his wife Christine Cote. That is the only connection to these 'DNA cousins', proving that, if Antoine and Christine were not the parents of ancestor Joseph, one of their siblings had to be.Records research proves that not to be the case. None of the otherJosephs who could possibly have been ancestor Joseph (as described in#1, above) were children of Antoine's and Christine's siblings. All were children of the couple's distant cousins, none of whom are ancestors in this or any related line.
Thus, the conclusion is made that Joseph Desjardins aka Joseph Gardner who emigrated to Maine in the early1850's, married Pauline Beaulieu there in 1857, and lived there until his death in 1883, was the son of Antoine Desjardins and his wife Christine Cote of the counties of Rivière-du-Loup and Kamouraska in Québec, Canada.
Person ID I24564 Antoine_Roy Last Modified 23 Sep 2014
Father Antoine Roy, b. 19 Nov 1802, Kamouraska, Kamouraska, Québec, Canada d. 18 Sep 1862, Cacouna, Rivière-du-Loup, Québec, Canada (Age 59 years) Mother Christine Coté, b. 24 Jul 1802, l'Isle Verte, Rivière-du-Loup, Québec, Canada d. 11 Dec 1872, Ulric, Matane, Québec, Canada (Age 70 years) Marriage 6 Sep 1824 St Jean-Baptiste, Isle Verte, Rivière-du-Loup, Québec, Canada [1, 7, 8] Age at Marriage He : 21 years and 10 months - She : 22 years and 2 months. Notes - Witnesses to the marriage are: Jean Baptiste Roi, the groom's father,and his cousin, Antoine Roi, Pierre Cote, the bride's father and Augustin Canade, her "beaufrere," brother-in-law, and others not named in the record.
Family ID F9283 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Wife Marie Pauline "Polly" Hudon dit Beaulieu, b. 18 Jul 1839, St-Georges, Cacouna, Rivière-du-Loup, Québec, Canada d. 15 Aug 1916, Old Town, Penobscot County, Maine, USA (Age 77 years) Marriage 13 Jul 1857 St-John, Bangor, Penobscot County, Maine, USA [9] Age at Marriage He : 25 years and 3 months - She : 18 years. Children 6 sons and 7 daughters Family ID F9285 Group Sheet | Family Chart
- Joseph was baptised at St-Louis de Kamouraska, Québec as Joseph Roy just one month after the marriage of his future parents-in-law, Jean Baptiste Hudon dit Beaulieu and Emilie Dionne. Baptismal entry shows that Joseph was "né de ce jour," meaning "born this day," the same day as his baptism. His godparents are: Parrain Francois Xavier Roy, Marraine Reine Roy.
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Sources - [S12] Personal information, [Ancestry of David Desjardins from CMA 2014 Roy Reunion].
- [S253] Anne Stefaniak's database.
- [S562] Roman Catholic Church, Québec Catholic Parish Registers (online),St-Louis-de-Kamouraska,Québec, Canada, St Louis de Kamouraska, Kamouraska, Québec, Canada.
- [S17] Gabriel Drouin, compiler, Drouin Collection, Québec Vital and Church Records, 1621-1967 (Ancestry, Kamouraska > St-Louis > 1832 > image 15,
[Godparents were François Xavier Roy and Reine Roy]. - [S560] Roman Catholic Church, Québec Catholic Parish Registers (online), Isle Verte, PQ, Canada.
- [S563] Robert E Chenard, Marriages of St-Joseph's, Old Town, Maine, Marriage & Death Index.
- [S17] Gabriel Drouin, compiler, Drouin Collection, Québec Vital and Church Records, 1621-1967 (Ancestry, L'Isle-Verte > St-Jean-Baptiste > 1824 > image 8.
- [S560] Roman Catholic Church, Québec Catholic Parish Registers (online), Isle Verte, PQ, Canada, St-Jean Bte IV, Image 10.
- [S719] St-John, Bangor, Maine, Records of Rev.John Bapst.